Tuesday, September 13, 2011

Tatkhiatna kingah lo thei hi.

Tatkhiatna kingah lo thei hi. Ahih hang kitaan thei lo (Romans 8
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Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:55 pm (PDT)



Faith in Christ Coupled with Personal Effort

1. Are you saying faith in Christ will not replace my personal efforts to
wage a constant war against sin? Can't I just believe in Christ and what He
did for me and that is sufficient to be saved?

Every one who receives Christ as a personal Savior is privileged to possess
His attributes. However, those who are waiting to behold a magical change in
their characters without determined effort on their part to overcome sin
will be disappointed. We must be vigilant lest our old nature will again
obtain the supremacy, whereby the enemy shall devise some snare whereby we
shall again become his captives. We are to work out our "own salvation with
fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to
do of his good pleasure"* Philippians2: 12, 13.*

Christ has given us no assurance that attaining perfection of character is
easy. A noble, all-rounded character is not inherited. It does not come to
us by accident. A noble character is earned by individual effort through the
merits and power of Christ. God gives the talents, the powers of the mind;
we form the character. It is formed by hard, stern battles with self.
Conflict after conflict must be waged against hereditary tendencies.

We will have to criticize ourselves closely, and allow not one unfavorable
trait to remain uncorrected. This is at times a very painful and
discouraging work because, as we see the deformities in our character, we
keep looking at them, when we should look to Jesus. But, everyone who enters
the pearly gates of the city of God will enter there as a conqueror, and his
greatest conquest will have been the conquest of self.

Let no one say, I cannot remedy my defects of character. If one comes to
this decision, he will certainly fail in obtaining everlasting life. The
impossibility lies in one's own will. The real difficulty arises from the
corruption of an unsanctified heart, and an unwillingness to submit to the
control of God.

Obedience to the Lord is paramount when walking with Him. The two main
characteristics of a believer are obedience to His law, and faith of Christ.
See Revelation 14:12. So just "believing" in Christ is not sufficient. If it
were, then Satan himself would gain Heaven, for it is written, "the devils
also believe, and tremble"* James2:19.*

For example, what was it that caused Adam and Eve to be cast from Eden? They
had no trouble believing in Jesus for He walked with them in the cool of the
day. See Genesis 3:8. It was disobedience that cost them dearly. So, are we
saved by works? "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but
according to his mercy he saved us" *Titus3:5. *We do not keep the Law to
become saved. Keeping the commandments are the fruits Christ said His
followers would display.

The law proves we are in need of a Savior. Looking at the law as a"mirror"
for the Christian we can see our defects more clearly. *See James 1:23-25*.
It makes us realize we cannot gain perfection without Christ. The law cannot
save. It can only point out our need for a Savior.To illustrate, if you were
to fall in a puddle of mud, standing in front of a mirror you would see your
filth. Can the mirror cleanse you? No, it cannot. It can only point out your
need to be cleansed.
2. Is it truly possible that if I trust in Christ's power coupled with
unrelenting personal war against all my personal defects, my character will
be perfected?

The heavenly angels will work with anyone who seeks that perfection of
character. To everyone engaged in this work Christ says, *I am at your right
hand to help you *"for without Me [Jesus] ye can do nothing"* John
15:5. *Remember
this. Let us be true as the needle to the pole so that no temptation can
corrupt us. May we not disappoint Him who so loved us that He gave His own
life to remit our sins.

If you have made mistakes, you will certainly gain a victory if you see
these mistakes and regard them as beacons of warning. Thus, you turn defeat
into victory, disappointing the enemy and honoring your Savior. Then, as *your
will co-operates with the will of God, it becomes omnipotent.*

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Khai Boy wrote:

>
>
> Gam tat hoih zuih zoh tawntung nang baih lo lua ahih man aa hong ki dong
> gop kha hi ee. Hih a nuai aa teng hihthu tawh kisai buaina hong om teh
> Catholic pawlpi maikai lam te hilh cian na hi. Assurance of Salvation?
>
>
>
> There are few more confusing topics than salvation. It goes beyond the
> standard question posed by Fundamentalists: "Have you been saved?" What the
> question also means is: "Don’t you wish you had the* assurance* of
> salvation?" Evangelicals and Fundamentalists think they do have such an
> absolute assurance.
>
> All they have to do is "accept Christ as their personal Savior," and it’s
> done. They might well live exemplary lives thereafter, but living well is
> not crucial and definitely does not affect their salvation.
>
> Kenneth E. Hagin, a well-known Pentecostal televangelist from the "Word
> Faith" wing of Protestantism, asserts that this assurance of salvation comes
> through being "born again": "Unless one is born anew, he cannot see the
> kingdom of God" (John 3:3). Though much of Hagin’s theology is considered
> bizarre in Protestant circles, his explanation of being born again could be
> endorsed by millions of Evangelical Protestants. In his booklet, *The New
> Birth*, Hagin writes, "The new birth is a necessity to being saved.
> Through the new birth you come into the right relationship with God."
>
> According to Hagin, there are many things that this new birth is not. "The
> new birth is not: confirmation, church membership, water baptism, the taking
> of sacraments, observing religious duties, an intellectual reception of
> Christianity, orthodoxy of faith, going to church, saying prayers, reading
> the Bible, being moral, being cultured or refined, doing good deeds, doing
> your best, nor any of the many other things some men are trusting in to save
> them." Those who have obtained the new birth "did the one thing necessary:
> they accepted Jesus Christ as personal Savior by repenting and turning to
> God with the whole heart as a little child." That one act of the will, he
> explains, is all they needed to do. But is this true? Does the Bible support
> this concept?
>
> Scripture teaches that one’s final salvation depends on the state of the
> soul at death. As Jesus himself tells us, "He who endures to the end will be
> saved" (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31–46). One who dies in the state of friendship
> with God (the state of grace) will go to heaven. The one who dies in a state
> of enmity and rebellion against God (the state of mortal sin) will go to
> hell.
>
> For many Fundamentalists and Evangelicals it makes no difference—as far as
> salvation is concerned—how you live or end your life. You can heed the altar
> call at church, announce that you’ve accepted Jesus as your personal Savior,
> and, so long as you really believe it, you’re set. From that point on there
> is *nothing* you can do, no sin you can commit, no matter how heinous,
> that will forfeit your salvation. You can’t undo your salvation, even if you
> wanted to.
>
> Does this sound too good to be true? Yes, but nevertheless, it is something
> many Protestants claim. Take a look at what Wilson Ewin, the author of a
> booklet called *There is Therefore Now No Condemnation* , says. He writes
> that "the person who places his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and his blood
> shed at Calvary is eternally secure. He can never lose his salvation. No
> personal breaking of God’s or man’s laws or commandments can nullify that
> status."
>
> "To deny the assurance of salvation would be to deny Christ’s perfect
> redemption," argues Ewin, and this is something he can say only because he
> confuses the redemption that Christ accomplished for us objectively with our
> individual appropriation of that redemption. The truth is that in one sense
> we are all redeemed by Christ’s death on the cross—Christians, Jews,
> Muslims, even animists in the darkest forests (1 Tim. 2:6, 4:10, 1 John
> 2:2)—but our individual appropriation of what Christ provided is contingent
> on our response.
>
> Certainly, Christ did die on the cross once for all and has entered into
> the holy place in heaven to appear before God on our behalf. Christ has
> abundantly provided for our salvation, but that does not mean that there is
> no process by which this is applied to us as individuals. Obviously, there
> is, or we would have been saved and justified from all eternity, with no
> need to repent or have faith or anything else. We would have been born
> "saved," with no need to be born *again*. Since we were not, since it is
> necessary for those who hear the gospel to repent and embrace it, there is a
> time at which we come to be reconciled to God. And if so, then we, like Adam
> and Eve, can become unreconciled with God and, like the prodigal son, need
> to come back and be reconciled again with God, after having left his family.
>
>
>
>
> *You Can’t Lose Heaven?*
>
>
>
> Ewin says that "no wrong act or sinful deed can ever affect the believer’s
> salvation. The sinner did nothing to merit God’s grace and likewise he can
> do nothing to demerit grace. True, sinful conduct always lessens one’s
> fellowship with Christ, limits his contribution to God’s work and can result
> in serious disciplinary action by the Holy Spirit."
>
> One problem with this argument is that this is not even how things work in
> everyday life. If another person gives us something as a grace—as a gift—and
> even if we did nothing to deserve it (though frequently gifts are given
> based on our having pleased the one bestowing the gift), it in no way
> follows that our actions are irrelevant to whether or not we keep the gift.
> We can lose it in all kinds of ways. We can misplace it, destroy it, give it
> to someone else, take it back to the store. We may even forfeit something we
> were given by later displeasing the one who gave it—as when a person has
> been appointed to a special position but is later stripped of that position
> on account of mismanagement.
>
> The argument fares no better when one turns to Scripture, for one finds
> that Adam and Eve, who received God’s grace in a manner just as unmerited as
> anyone today, most definitely *did* demerit it—and lost grace not only for
> themselves but for us as well (cf. also Rom. 11:17-24). While the idea
> that what is received without merit cannot be lost by demerit may have a
> kind of poetic charm for some, it does not stand up when compared with the
> way things really work—either in the everyday world or in the Bible.
>
> Regarding the issue of whether Christians have an "absolute" assurance of
> salvation, regardless of their actions, consider this warning Paul gave:
> "See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who
> have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his
> kindness; *otherwise you too will be cut off*" (Rom. 11:22; see also Heb.
> 10:26–29, 2 Pet. 2:20–21).
>
>
>
> *Can You Know?*
>
>
>
> Related to the issue of whether one can lose one’s salvation is the
> question of whether one can know with complete certainty that one is in a
> state of salvation. Even if one could not lose one’s salvation, one still
> might not be sure whether one ever had salvation. Similarly, even if one
> could be sure that one is *now* in a state of salvation, one might be able
> to fall from grace in the future. The "knowability" of salvation is a
> different question than the "loseability" of salvation.
>
> From the Radio Bible Class listeners can obtain a booklet called *Can
> Anyone Really Know for Sure?* The anonymous author says the "Lord Jesus
> wanted his followers to be so sure of their salvation that they would
> rejoice more in the expectation of heaven than in victories on earth. ‘These
> things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that
> you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to
> believe in the name of the Son of God (1 John 5:13).’"
>
> Places where Scripture speaks of our ability to know that we are abiding in
> grace are important and must be taken seriously. But they do not promise
> that we will be protected from self-deception on this matter. Even the
> author of *Can Anyone Really Know for Sure?* admits that there is a false
> assurance: "The New Testament teaches us that genuine assurance is
> possible and desirable, but it also warns us that we can be deceived through
> a false assurance. Jesus declared: ‘Not everyone who says to me, "Lord,
> Lord" shall enter the kingdom of heaven’ (Matt. 7:21)."
>
> Sometimes Fundamentalists portray Catholics as if they must every moment be
> in terror of losing their salvation since Catholics recognize that it is
> possible to lose salvation through mortal sin. Fundamentalists then hold out
> the idea that, rather than living every moment in terror, they can have a
> calm, assured knowledge that they will, in fact, be saved, and that nothing
> will ever be able to change this fact.
>
> But this portrayal is in error. Catholics do not live lives of mortal
> terror concerning salvation. True, salvation can be lost through mortal sin,
> but such sins are by nature *grave* ones, and not the kind that a person
> living the Christian life is going to slip into committing on the spur of
> the moment, without deliberate thought and consent. Neither does the Catholic
> Church teach that one cannot have an assurance of salvation. This is true
> both of present and future salvation.
>
> One can be confident of one’s present salvation. This is one of the chief
> reasons why God gave us the sacraments—to provide visible assurances that he
> is invisibly providing us with his grace. And one can be confident that one
> has not thrown away that grace by simply examining one’s life and seeing
> whether one has committed mortal sin. Indeed, the tests that John sets forth
> in his first epistle to help us know whether we are abiding in grace are, in
> essence, tests of whether we are dwelling in grave sin. For example, "By
> this it may be seen who are the children of God, and who are the children of
> the devil: whoever does not do right is not of God, nor he who does not love
> his brother" (1 John 3:10), "If any one says, ‘I love God,’ and hates his
> brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has
> seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen" (1 John 4:20), "For this is the
> love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not
> burdensome" (1 John 5:3).
>
> Likewise, by looking at the course of one’s life in grace and the
> resolution of one’s heart to keep following God, one can also have an
> assurance of future salvation. It is this Paul speaks of when he writes to
> the Philippians and says, "And I am sure that he who began a good work in
> you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ" (Phil. 1:6).
> This is not a promise for all Christians, or even necessarily all in the
> church at Philippi, but it is a confidence that the Philippian Christians in
> general would make it. The basis of this is their spiritual performance to
> date, and Paul feels a need to explain to them that there is a basis for his
> confidence in them. Thus he says, immediately, "It is right for me to feel
> thus about you all, because I hold you in my heart, for you are all
> partakers with me of grace, both in my imprisonment and in the defense and
> confirmation of the gospel" (1:7). The fact that the Philippians performed
> spiritually by assisting Paul in his imprisonment and ministry showed that
> their hearts were with God and that it could be expected that they, at least
> in general, would persevere and remain with God.
>
> There are many saintly men and women who have long lived the Christian life
> and whose characters are marked with profound spiritual joy and peace. Such
> individuals can look forward with confidence to their reception in heaven.
>
> Such an individual was Paul, writing at the end of his life, "I have fought
> the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Henceforth
> there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the
> righteous judge, will award to me on that Day" (2 Tim. 4:7-8). But earlier
> in life, even Paul did not claim an infallible assurance, either of his
> present justification or of his remaining in grace in the future. Concerning
> his present state, he wrote, "I am not aware of anything against myself, but
> I am not thereby justified [Gk., *dedikaiomai* ]. It is the Lord who judges
> me" (1 Cor. 4:4). Concerning his remaining life, Paul was frank in admitting
> that even he could fall away: "I pummel my body and subdue it, lest after
> preaching to others I myself should be disqualified" (1 Cor. 9:27). Of
> course, for a spiritual giant such as Paul, it would be quite unexpected and
> out of character for him to fall from God’s grace. Nevertheless, he points
> out that, however much confidence in his own salvation he may be warranted
> in feeling, even he cannot be *infallibly* sure either of his own present
> state or of his future course.
>
> The same is true of us. We can, if our lives display a pattern of
> perseverance and spiritual fruit, have not only a confidence in our present
> state of grace but also of our future perseverance with God. Yet we cannot
> have an infallible certitude of our own salvation, as many Protestants will
> admit. There is the possibility of self-deception (cf. Matt. 7:22-23). As
> Jeremiah expressed it, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and
> desperately corrupt; who can understand it?" (Jer. 17:9). There is also the
> possibility of falling from grace through mortal sin, and even of falling
> away from the faith entirely, for as Jesus told us, there are those who
> "believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away" (Luke 8:13). It
> is in the light of these warnings and admonitions that we must understand
> Scripture’s positive statements concerning our ability to know and have
> confidence in our salvation. Assurance we may have; infallible certitude we
> may not.
>
> For example, Philippians 2:12 says, "Therefore, my beloved, as you have
> always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my
> absence, *work out your own salvation *with fear and trembling." This is
> not the language of self-confident assurance. Our salvation is something
> that remains to be worked out.
>
>
>
> *What To Say*
>
> "Are you saved?" asks the Fundamentalist. The Catholic should reply: "As
> the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also *
> being* saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope
> that I *will be *saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle
> Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with
> hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."
>
> --- On *Wed, 9/9/09, suang dal * wrote:
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